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Season 2, Episode 19 · 1 year ago

Bonus Action - Elder Dragon Patron

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In this Bonus Action, we talk with Matt Newman, the lead writer of the new Elder Dragon Patron option for the Warlock, about what makes the subclass so special. This new 5th edition content is now available on DM's Guild.

Ladies Gentlemen, Non Binary FriendsWelcome back to another triple advantage bonus action, as alwaysimbradn or throuing today, by my good buddy, Jordan and joining USadditionally, today is a good friend of ours for a long time. The lead authorof the new Ruralsy Society Project, the elder dragon patron for the warlockthat is out today on DM Skild, and here talk about it. A bit is the one behindthe magic MSTR mattnewman. Welcome to the show hello, hello. Thank you. So HI'll kick this off because, as as you both know, I am Mier warwock. It isninety nine percent of anything uplay indindy is going to be warlock orworlock related, so yeah, it's always a surprise. When you play something it'sShogking, I know, but let's a let's start by figure out what's goingon here. So what is in Elder Dragon? Mat. Let's start with that sort. So theelder dragon is something that isn't exactly defined currently in Fift,additional ruling, dungeons and draggons at all M. obviously we we knowdragons, currently kind of in terms of high scale. You know monolythic dragons,that are kind of larger than life. We have ancient dragons at kind of a highend of things and t at the kind of higher even more unapproachable level.We have some examples of darconic deities like tm out in Bahama, so wewant to provide with this. Udclass was the kind o outline for a very powerfulpotent, legendary, almost monolithic dragon that isn't necessarily any oneof either of those how we're kind of flavoring the elder dragon for this isanywhere in between you know in terms of power and scaling her Rown Inbetween,an ancient dragon and Dostrcn triconic Davies, as I mentioned before, so youcould. You know this kind of giveus players and demned a bit more creativefreedom to come up with their own elderdragon and whether they want it tobe kind of as powerful, asmoftes triconic daties, that's totally five orit could still just be a you know,...

...slightly more. You know powerful andvicious ancient type dragon that's located physically in the materialplane somewhere yeah. That definitely opens it up for different personalitiesbetween the dragons and things like that as well. Right exactly yeah yeah,that's Nice Um! What were your? I guess. What was your inspiration behind likecreating a an elder dragon patron? So I was actually looking through some oldersore spokestitch try to get some ideas, an inspiration for new things. I didn'tget a chance to play three point: Five e that had some incredible ideas ineffort for classes and the like, and what I found actually going throughsome older books, for it was a full level, one to twenty classcalled the dragonfire Atet, really interesting class right from thebeginning. They got a breathweapon at level, one as well as a bunch of othersort of deconic theme dabilities and it all scaled up from there. Just a fascinaing class I mean dragonsare a main state in Tegan plates literally in the Title I think,throughout the history of Dand. You know it's. It's kind of an exciting INSETI for players to either get tomead or fight dragons or may even have some kind of connection to them withtheir character M, and this class really kind of encouraged. That ideathat right off the bout, this this character has the very specificinfluence of the dragon as they grow in power, that kind of increases with themand they grow kind of more and more UM powerful, with Thos reconic abilities,ie loved. That idea- and I was kind of surprised that we haven't seen any moredirect comparison to this class. Come up in you know the current addition oranything released lately. So I I wanted to try to. I didn'texactly want to convert this specific class. 'cause ha a lot of things goingfor it, but um ant to try to convert the theme at least over to five e andget that that feeling of having you w...

...right off about you have this veryintense drichonic presence within your character. So you know Um right off oftat kind oftrying to find a a shell to put that on to the warwack seem to fit not only interms of the flavor I mean you know you talk about, say, like unknown character.Breathing, you know a line of acid out of their ever mouth at level, one Ho how how are the cable of that youknow for me, it kind of makes sense that they've devoted themselves to this,this patrionthis dragons, ancient powerful being with their ownmotivations for giving, but a modicum of their power to these mortals inexchange for servitude essentially, and that's how these individuals, you knowhumans, nomes dwars, whatever are able to conjure these dreconic abilities and also to h, the dragonfire adebtactually had some hints to the warlock design later on. They got a lot ofoptions in terms of what they could pick with the class and flavoring someof their features. One of them was actually called GECONIC invocationsthat they got to pit Sora Bat. I kind of saw that parallel to warlockclassing immediately as I began, can I think about it. It just all seemed toto fit together interesti. So it sounds like if, if Ican KINDOF put a put a label on it sounds like more of an omage of this hof this class from three point: Five, then a full conversion- yeah, it'sJlike Kindo, taking that theme and running with it, but not necessarilytrying to copy it perse. Okay. So let's talk about the the features t an you'vetouched on the you've touched on the idea of a breath weapon. Yes, yes, sothe breath weapon. Obviously, in the Dragon Far Adectley got right at level,one which I thought was really interesting and kind of fun to get thatflatoring right off the bat for the players. You know powerful, unique toollike that, so that kind of became the foundation of what this subclass is forthe warlock. The defining feature I'm...

...going to talk about today for thisclass is the one you get right at level one. You know in combination with yourexpendence spell list. Thats all words get you get the feature elementalbreath. This gives your pc the ability to bathe their enemies in flames oracid or poison or lightening. What have you, whichever you know, ancestr youpick um now? Obviously this has been seen a little bit in the past byplayers. You Know Dragon Bornes is race, they have N in a breath weapon and, ifyou're familiar with the Um sort of stout lined for it. In terms of youknow, you select your ancestry. So if you're, a red dragonborn you'll get afire, a cone, specifically with a dexterity seaf associate if you'refamiliar with those doubts, you'll you'll kind of be famiier with t thebase statline of of how this begins, your ancestry will be based off yourpatience. ANSTYOURSOF. It's a black dragon. They'll. Give you acid Um,that's kind o were the initial comparison to current existing breathweapons kind of changes up a little bit. We we wanted it. Instead of being, youknow, kind of a set amount of damage and kind of a one and done future tohave it really, as I say, m, be kind of the the main focus of the suthclass andand the main idensity of these warlocks. Really so not only is it a pool of dicethat you will get which it will increase with your player level, andyou can choose how much you want to expend when you use it as an action Um,it will also slightly recherch. On Short, rest you'll get half your pool,rounded up and obviously wo'l get all your pool back on a long rest Um. I can't Soro know how you know howfunthes feture it seems to be to Usin this and how the whole lass kind of wasdesigned, orround it and to synergize around this feture. This is designed tobe featured. That's going to be useful for you guys at level, one and leveltwenty you're going to be using this thrugout your entire campaign and asyou grow in power and level, it will...

...get some improvements with the classand other features to kind of synorgize, with it Um and just in general I mean Bradan, younvention, you don't warlacks your favorite class, it's one of my favorite.Has You personally um it's such a flavorful class in terms ofwhat you can do and there's so many options when it comes down to toColmbat a lot of the time with the limited mount of spell flots you haveit. CA can kind of devolve a little bit. You know the WORLWEX actions you know.Maybe they spend a spell, then they use their casho of choice. You knowprobably ulters blast and and there's nothing wrong with that. But the Nicething about this feature is: It introduces another base tool into theworwock's kit for these one specifically that they can usethroughout. You know the adventuring day they can kind of mix up theiraction economy a little bit with this breath. Weapon to kind of you know,breathe a bit of new life into things. If you will, I olsms excellent punob first of allnotquit intental. I realized as IAS saying Oly. Oh no Y, I got no, but I do likethat. As as a as a consistent warwock player, it can get a little monotonousN. I know I know. Other classes are similar H, sometimes ut. Absolutelyspecifically like especially with the reliability of Elcish Blasti, becomesalmost th foolish. Not to do that whenever you can so exactly. I likethat this introducs another level yeah and hopefully this will feel likeanother reliable to kind of like elrgers blast for these wots that theycan reliably use. You Kow, as I say, throughout the adventuring day,thoughout ther combats or or not, yeah. So H do you have any other like tools oranything like that that are provided on on this particular class subplas wh? What kind of thingswhat other kinds of things can people expect right so now I don't want toexactly kiw o spoil every feature right now, for you guys for what what I willsay is we've really. We've really worked hard Um to kind of take whatmakes dragons truly icon it and anfit...

...it somewhere into this class, so thatthe sub plas will get those kind of features yet to feel that kind of levelof of power of themselves. So we've already talked about the breath weaponas I'm surea an f you can imagine you know you can already be in thinking ofwhat dragons are truly capable of Wereweev we've already metionedthebreathwe and you can probably sart o piece, the other some things in yourhead. What you may be capable of in this Class D. As I say I, I really wantto stress that if you can picture it with a dragon,you can probably pull it off to some extent in the sunclass M, and I do notthink people will pe disappointed with that flavoring S. another sorry go ahead. Thank you. Sorry M havebout. Some indications itwas going to go the warluck, absolutely yes, so that is something wewe have included. In addition, tosmall ther module. There are some newinvocations, which I mean. Obviously you know it's it's it's Bas ar part ofthe warlikins. What makes them so exciting the different things you getto pick and else to thet ledim with the kind of comparison to the dragon foraddepts. You know they had those diconic in vocations, so it reallymanes unsersed to add and a few of those that really kindof fit thesunclass and added more if lavor on to it. You know if people really wanted todouble down on that theme, and I really encourage you to do that cau. I thinkit' seen to be really fun. They can do that. So with these invocations, manyof them are tened around the succluth itself. Obviously, but there's one inparticular of that m. You know, as as an option, you know you couldpotentially try to you know. Oiu Yo run upby Egon first, but you could try torun this for your wor lock of different patrons well and this one. You canpicket level one so yo I, when you get invocations you can you can select it.It's called shrewd eye. It allows you to cast the identify spill at willwithout expending a spell slop or...

...material components Um. I obviously, ifyou guys have played in my campaign with any kind of magical items thattentified this is extremely useful. An oppotenability, the woraks would notnormally gain access to t any capacity, but if your partly doesn't have awizard with this spell, this is really potent option for hs and again kind ofreinforced that theme of th that shrewd eye of dragons. That really can can youknow, look through a treasure, horde and KINDOF PEC at what's most valuable.What you know, maybe a little more than it appears Um. It's a really funfeature. There's another invocation. L I'll give another example here, onethat benefits the sunclass specifically and this one really interesting is o.it's called elemental drifter. You can take it Liltle, son Um, so normallyyour breath weapon will be. You know, fireelated or cold related based onwhat your ancestry is. This invocation will allow you to use any element whenyou make an attack with your breath weapon, you can change it on spot.Whenever you'd, like you, begin with a cold breath weapon and you can changeit as you use it to a lightning or fire poison, whatever you're feeling at thetime, whatever best suits the situation. That sounds amazing. yehoopefully youjust kin of provide extra. You know options for for these pares s. If youreally want to double down on the teme of the dryconic abilities. Taking theseinvocations Um really will create that full picture for you all of that. Youknow dreconic theme, presence, you're, GOINGTO feel Um. You know capable oftriconic like abilities w with some of th EAS. I think it's really rewardingfor people, Jordan. Any final questions for efriendhere yeah, I guess Um one one last question: How would yousay the elemental breath weapon compares to say, for instance, theDragon Borns, a main raceability or the dragon'sbreadth spell right? Well, th! That's a...

...good point, because that issomethingtinternational by re TT that if you do pick a dragon born, so I waskind of mentiond in our inneon process. You know maybe it's for Dunan. If youpick one, they already have a breath weapon, not necessarily the dragon runs,get to keep their breath weapon. That's that always is but they'll just genthis one on top of it. So Ga, if you really want to double down on thattheme, just constantly bebre breathing all kinds of different elements, maybeyou do want to pick a Dragonbor F R for that extra. You know usage, but so itkins starts. When you first get the Brougho, it seems kindo similar atfirst to the Dragon onts type, but augausy the damage is different becauseyou get to put you know D sixes from your pool into it. So it's it can be.You know a very small amount or or it could be, you know perhaps even greaterthan the dragon borns capable F dealing Goge. In addition, you do you also m.add your Chrismal modifier to that damage to just get a little bit more ofkind of a reliability with some of those numbers bit more consistency, soRighto, but I think people who are used to perhaps just using the trakonbornsand ept Rut APP or the Bret of Dragon's breath spell putting on on people. Thiswill feel similar, but probably a little bit more potent than some areas,especially as you increase on level later on. Youill get some otherfeatures to you, improve your breath. Weapon and you'll just have more diceavailable in your pool, so you can kind of be Um. You know a bit more tatl onhow much you want to use it. Maybe you want to spend a giant burst in thesituation, or do you want to spread it out and be able to use it almosteveryturn Il be lesser damage. Um, you know t the the theme will be verysimilar, but those of you who really enjoy using those kind of effects, Ithink we'll get a lot of enjoyment out of this particular m breath weapon.It's kind designed to be a little bit more reliable an and, as I say, we wantour players to enjoy using some of one and level fifteen and twenty, and youknow everywhere in between. So you know...

...it's designed to be rewarding for theplayers too, use in comment. I I'm glad to hear that 'cause. I wasrecently actually just before this washing an interview with Joe Magadello,where Stephen Colbert was interviewing him and Steven had never. He hasn'tplayed since. Like first edition, I think, and the concept of dragonbornwas being explained to him and he was floored by th. You can breathe fireright off. The Bat Yoit is not that good its and I agree like it's a great thing tohave at level one, but it almost immediately falls by the wayside yeahas soon as unied being more powerful. So the fact that this kind of evolveswith your character is something that I really enjoy about it M Forsureyeah, but I believe that is all the time thatwe have for today. Thank you match for coming on and talking about this withus for a little bit. Thank you. Gus Tit's been a pleasure. Those Ave you listening. You can nowpurchase the elder dragonpatron for the warlock on DM killd, find it on DMSskild or on our insrogrant page at Royal City Society. If you choose totry this, let us know, drop irvew drop us a comment. How did it work out foryou? What do you like? What might we change we're always looking for newsuggestions and, besides that, keep an eye out for a new episode of tripleadvantage coming on Monday will catch you ges in the next one.

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