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Season 3, Episode 29 · 8 months ago

Ep. 53 - Meet Your New Step-Strahd

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This week on Triple Advantage, we head back to Ravenloft while talking about the new sourcebook from Wizards, dicuss what makes a good villain, and see how you handle romance in your games.

This week on triple advantage, wereturned to Ravenloff when discussing the new source book from Wizards,discuss the elements of a good villain and look at how you run romance in yourgames as always stay tuned to our social media, to stay updated on ournewest releases, enjoy the show hello, wonderful numbers of society onToday's echoes of the outlanes, we're going to dive straight into Raven Loft,the dark and spoopy new book coming out from wizard to the coast van Riten'sGid to Raven love. Now I have no idea who van Richon is. Unfortunately, inthis case, I actually haven't played Cursabstradiyet. So there's a lot ofLowe here that I'e had to google to sort of kind of catch myself up on, butguys and know that some of you have playedcurseof Strat. So what are your thoughts on this being a little bitmore direct? I don't know that this is Cursiv strawd necessary versus, liketrying to flash out the world around cursive strawd because it sounds likelike Chrisa is Barovia, which is one specific area, but itsounds like it's trying to flesh out, so it talks about outflushing, ut, thedomains of dread or the already new and familiar demains of read beyond Brovialike Lamordia, demenslieu and Calicary, none of which I've I'm familiar with.So it sounds like they're really trying to flesh this out is like it soundslike they're, giving this thea the Eberon treatment, where, like people,kind of knew it beforehand and now they're trying to like really bringpeople in and give it a new campaign setting more so like a swords coast,adventures God exactly I've. Confused I've read a couple times that it's likethe new campaign book and like that this doesn't seem like a campaign. Thisseems like a sitting. Yeah yeah it'll be like a like a wildmat type thing where yeah you' maybe got like some adventures that they'llincludein there. But I think this sounds more like a just, a full setting, which is cool. Super Gothic settingyeah I'mboutit right othink go ahead. I was just going to cover the thecontents of this book. Like you mentioned, we're talking aboutthe domains of dread, and this actually hasn't been a thing since I believe itfance the inded recall correctly, but iot way, it's been a far beyond myyears since that's been discusseding anofficial printed book, we're also talking new backgrounds of like horror,theme backgrounds for your characters, which I'm always excited about. I lovebackgrounds are one of my favorite things indiand. It's usually how I sort ofbuilt characters around and we're we've discussed in the previous podcast. We discussed thenew races of the dam peer, the HEC blood and the reboard, and those willmake their official debut on this book. We have two new subclasses college ofspirits for bards and the undead packed for warlocks Wi'll touch on that alittle bit later and dark gifts for characters, a flushout your place in the domains of dread. It that sounds really cool to me. Yeah.That sounds just the right amount of vague. For me, we have new horrific creatures. So alittle bit of a monster manual bit here and an all new adventure. So it's an all encompassing book here but go on sorry. I interrupted yourBrin. I just want to El. Let everybody know what what we werd be Talki Abo.All I wanted to do is formally request that we NAM this episode meet your newsteps. Dread...

...yeah, that's a good one! Hey at least we can at least Yo came upat it like now. Is the easiest one yet done? Do we needan episode just need to catch a title? People look like thanks for listening,guys catch US next time on, I think last IIT was pretty catchy. Wasn't it click fat, Oh yeah, Hashtack, whateverit was yeah, I'm I'm honestly, like with thegift of hindsight. I'm surprised, none of us ar this one coming consideringhow much garthic stuff yea releasing for the last couple of months yeah, but I wouldn't. I still am kind ofsurprised that they're doing this cursive Strad strikes me and I think itstrikes a lot of people as like one of the more perfect yeah modules that they've released.It's really good, it's really well balanced. It's got a great atmosphereand it really like it wraps itself up very nicely, so I'm alittle bit confused on why they're so ready to goback to it. It just seems like it's it's. It was a good chapter in theirhistory, but it seems like the chapter shut. Well, maybe that's that's why this is asourcebook right, because they just want everybody to go y. u, okay wouldlike Hasostrata such a great hit. Let make your own stories from the settingmmthat's good point yeah and on top of that, when, when was Cursiv, stride releasedright like if, if it's been long enough, now that pretty well, everyone hasplayed cursof, stradalready or a majority of their fan base. Now theycan say, Oh look. We can throw in this huge new setting and maybe people willgo back to Cursov, Strat, again kind of thing or people who haven't played it yet arenow going to go. Oh Look! There's this whole new setting. I want to play curseof Straw because I've heard good things about this horror, themed stuff. Also,you can now go back to cursive Strog, probably with these new lineages anddark gifts and subclasses and stuff, which would be kind of cool backgrounds, even byhin. I, to be honest, I'm never really ranany golfin horror theme and I think that they're just sort of flushing outall the little avenues here. Right, like you, have your Eberon artificersort of advance technology themes gothic with Raven Loft. I wonder whattwhat it will alse o going to be working on, but with regards to this particularbook, I'm actually kind of excited to see what thecollegeis spirits is all about as well. I haven't we haven't mean I haven'tseen anything on this IBE talked about this on. Oh, yes, we did. That was awhile ago that was wile ago yeah yeah, right right, right, right, right, yeah, Thi's, all coming together nowyeah. What did you know the undeadpacked at all? Yeah? Oh, yes, ah yeah yeah, but not in that last bunch. I think it was thecollege of spirits and it was something else and I think the pact of the undeadwarlock was like on Earth Darcana for a while back yeah like one of the ones on the tail endsthat, like didn't quite make it into. Oh, maybe that was yeah. There wasright, there was anever living one right, wasn't there, but I don'tremember in undead me: Maybe it was called Ondead. I don't know it's not in Tasha's, I don't think well,there's undying which is yeah a lic or I something similar right, but there'salso undebd, which is a like undyingsmeen around for a while. undedis new ish on earth, Arcon Etlic in the last six months. Oh, you know what yeahyou're right there was at undeadpack. I do remember talking about it, but wasthat that so that was with the same it...

...was onarting or Canca, but it was withthe same cro college spirits. I don't know about that for sure I justremember talking about it and about the my gid abilities and thatkind of thing yeah yeah same here, it's been a little bitsince we talked about that, but yeah goodness that was a while back yeah, I'm just looking up to see justreading through all the the DD beyond poste and sang wit allther. So some ofthe little tease are just the monsters here. The carry Onnett, guys kind of creepy. ' Not sure. If it'slike a skeletol sounds like a skeletol puppet. I hateit yeah Aryan net. It was the Googe Alto Yeah carryons, like didlike dead body,essentially right so yeah, Yep and and then Marioetts. You Know Er puppets.So this is great yeah really cool stuff. So if you ever wanted to channel your Innernarroto poss as a acter, that's a much that'slike a kid version of what I'm imagining here. Where is like? No, no,I'm Thinkin, I'm thinking about Concero an Narrato yeah, ecause yeah. Hedoesn't seem that creepy compared to what I was imagining, but yes, that Wa ally there was somebody else. I forgetthe other, the other character in the series who actually made Mariannettlike who made heah puppets out of flesh, but I forget hi the character name. Ithink it was. It was fun of the Tachi. No, not theATTACHI Theakotski Clin members M Yeah E had like a a tail. Yes, yes, yeah bone tail. I think we're Gois an on it and stuff like that.Yeah Yeah, yeah, a couple of bodies: yeah, THAT'S PRETTY COOL! I wonder if this could be a subclassthat we could create. Oh Gosh! No, can we not hey? I mean we have used corpsecollector before Mayas, well, put them to use yeah. I guess it's kind of hard to seelike, like. I don't know much about all these dread domains right. So I, like I,mean personally it's hard for it's hard for me, as somebody pus new into the hobby to immediatelyconnect with this book, like the only reason that it's like largelyinteresting for me is because we'e covered a lot of the sub classes. Anwe've covered the the lineages, but I think this mightstrike better connection with someone who'sbeen playing the game a lot longer, because the the demains of dread arenot something that I know anything about all right, but somebody thatmight have been playing like advanced DND would be like. Oh Shit like I'm soexcited to go back to cal, carry right yeah, whatever that happens, yeah and a new haunted adventure whichI guess we have seen how to run. Hor like I'm trying to pieces alltogetherguys. I've seen a bunch of like I've, seen a couple of the stories ondndbeyond about like running horror in your in your campaigns and I'm interestedactually to see how they would have handled this, because I know that atleast for me, that's one of the more difficult teams to establish at a tableand especially when you're playing with remote players just kind of kind of hard togive that spoopy Viv. You know, yeah the real trick to running a horror. Adventure is to find playerswho have wild imaginations and...

...are get scared, chitless very easilythatwas going to say this sounds like I need you in this camp. Yes, that'sright! It takes no effort at all to terrifyyou to your core yeah. Like seriously, I mean like whenwe talked about carry it auts there I'd got like chills and stuff like I'm, I'mstill getting over it. It's IT Ruvens rampand in my mind, andthen I just let it herculate there and it just ends poorly for me, see the caronats sound terrifying, thevamperic mine flayers, don't sound like a walk in the park either yeah mine, flaiors, the like already arhorrifying, I'm not sure how them being vam pericmakes them worse, but it is Gothic, but yeah Mayo clearly have he clearlyhaven't Med Zombe Min tiers, either yeah, but, like listen, think about this froma from a TTRPD's perspective, not from a conceptual perspective, mind player salready, really tough, to kill now, throw in all the resistances and powersthat a vampire already has hm now, you're just getting three times as longfighting a squid face. Guy Riat, lovely Ha halooking at theLimboardia map. Right now, Jo see it a some sense of what these locations looklike you have you have it pretty much bordering the coast of the cof sorrows,which immediately speaks to just how sad andgray scale? I picture all these campaigns to be. Oh Yeah. Everything like all these. All these settingsalways give me some sort of like Touan S, recession, Bibes, yes, yeah te see, I don't know if I would be able tohandle like a long term campaign in such a gray scale. Setting all the timesuch a dark gloomy setting, yeah yeah everyone you've talked to was eaten byhad a family member eaten Bywer, Wolf, an e all starving and everybody's got, Idon't know yeah, that's thiss is 's just sad, that's proky yeah, but I guess I mean if you're a DM thatdoesn't necessarily enjoy like character like voice acting, youknow might be good because you could just monotone the entire campaign andis cam totally in teem. Likbit of an nodd, odd interactionbetween the Undoud andt in you and you DM afterwards. Is everybody sound? The same the plague, the plags, always the Flig, I'm excited. I always I feel like you like thesethemes. A Lot I do but like I feel like if I really wanted to like do like ahorror or campaign like I'd, probably go playCaliatilu, which I'm still trying to do. But this sounds like this sounds like gothic horror, mixed with like a littlebit of Campe horror, which is kind of what strawd is to me, like it'sdefinitely horror based, but there's a lot of there's a lot of like tropes in it likeright, drawd, mmild spoilers, I think, maybe I'm not sure possibly mouthsWolis for strawd. That, like Strawd, embodies a lot of like very tropy vampire ideas. He can't like he can't come into a house unlesshe's invited, so you can have entire conversations with strawdwere, likeyou're in the house and he's outside of the House and he's going just like comeon. Just let me in U like no a one...

...traut, but guys we did that once like it was basicallyus just being traumatized and our DM Mat is just like outside going like. U,Oh, no! No! I wasn't mat for that one, but he's out I going like please come on. Is You know your wio you'll? Let me inright were like no, we D, Ana thes Strot, also glitter in thesunlight he doesn't, but he does have a stereotypically vamperit castle likeit's. It's very drecku ish right down to thevery corpe of it I mean to certain extent, I thinkpeople go to those campaigns for those trips just to like be like hey. This isa cool thing. You know that I am familiar with and I want to see what it's like to bein that tropy world, but also you're, right like where calld Kafulu would bemore like itwould, be more open, ended, I think, to actually becominghorrifying to a lot more players. I'm just surprised. You know. I think Ithink, with regards to this book, though I like they're, definitelyleveraging the fact that maybe more people have played cursof, Strad orkind of know the general just o Raven off, because this book is coming beforeJus get this book is coming up. BEFOR CANDLEKEEP! Isn't it? I don't think so.I think it's can o Kep on this can oo keep first. This is Mazn. Okay, so they've just announcedin- andI was just going to say because, like for candleheep, there's been a lot morereleases and tieces at the content. That's going to be inside of the book,at least with like stories and like the types of adventures or thebackgrounds of the authors. So I'm wondering how much more they're goingto be doing that for reven law, probably a bit really quite a bit. Let's help SOM. It gives us a segmentin this podcast. That's the important part, O at's, allright. It's all about that content. You hear US Listener, God. I don't know if it's just me guys,but this morning I am feeling tired. AFS, you know WHO's. not, though, is Jordando y just perpetually upbeatand. I hate you you're Soke, why don't you takeover furwils and we're going to go sleep in the back room? Of course,loven Tyou, guys too Sodr all right. So in that caseeveryone who is still awakened parculating. Like me, we are on page ninety. Four of the DungeonMaster's guide last we left off. We were talking about NBCS and how to make them and loyaltyrules regarding NPC Party members and that sort of thing and higher lings andhow that works, and now we're going to go into the last section of NPCs, whichis talking about villains, so which kind of a little bit fits with the thetheme this week. So that's kind of cool, so villains by their actions. I love this sentence.Villains provide job security for heroes, that's great, so good, so true, butalso kind of like. Oh suddenly, the Hero's job seems Oh, there's negative connotationsassociated with it. It assumes that there's bad thingsgoing on. That's funny. I think it's the it's. I think it's the dark night.It's one of the Batman Movies where they essentially talk about, like youknow,...

...is Batman necessary because we've likeseen an upticken crime or is there an uptaken crime because, like Batman'shere- and I was always like no but like, if you think about it, like the job goes away, the minute, there'sno demand so yeah. You do no need a villain, Yep Rightin, the jobdescription yep, so it just yeah ruins being a hero for me a little bit, butthat's okay. You know villain still exist and I'm going to pretend thatthey come before the heroes always so I was lit born because of villains.That's right! That's right! Not the other way around and don't tell me otherwise. So so anyway, livela that'Sero, no, no, don't use that line o see yourself become the villain. Iknow all right chapter three helps youdetermine suitable villains for your adventures. While this section helpsyou flesh out their evil schemes, methods and weaknesses, so they havebig tables here, guys that are meant to inspire you. So they talk about schemes first, so maybe there's scheme or objective isrelated to immortality or influence or magic like carrying out a Deiti'swisher set, offering sacrifices and that sort of thing- or maybe it's related to passion or power,O mayhem or revenge, our wealth. Those are just like basic ideas that you can throw in thereand they've got like underneath each of those little sections they've got extralittle subsections. That can kind of tell you different potential goals or how tocarry out said Schemer or objective like for power. You could have seas,control of an army or conquer a region to an or inside a rebellion that sort of thing so bunch of different ideas here on what what a villain wants and what todo with tha villain, I guess so very, very basic- doesn't give you awhole lot other than the very base idea, and thenyou flush it out from there and then it goes into the methods here. So once you've got your scheme orobjective picked out, you can go into method. So how are they going to carryout this objective and they've got things like agricultural devastation,assaults or readings, bounty hunting or assassinating captivity or corersion,confident, scamps, defamation, dueling, execution, impersonation or disguise lying orperjury mayhem, magical Mahem, specifically,Mercer, neglect, politics, religion, stocking thet or property crime,torture, vice warfare? I like how they've got like some here that arelike really horrible things and others that are like property crime? Is, youknow, a villainous action? I mean I like that. You slid right from murderinto politics thos. This is why you don't hire the murderHo party to handle the white color crime division gonna be a lot ofmurdered people. Why you mostly just don't hire the murder Hoba party woul,that be a lesson, but you never know which one it's going to be. I know yeah,it's true right until afterwards, right up until it happens, and then you'relike oh you're, that type of players get it. The DND world needs like a yelplike a like a community board that is exclusively dedicated to...

...boasting reviews on adventuring s or like a like. A tinder like having a people, put up theircharacters and what they're all about, and then you like, Swipe, left andWright based on Hdo. You want them for your campaigns, yeah. So again with each of these methods.They've got a bunch of different subsections that talk about differentways that you can go about doing those things which I mean most people don't need awhole lot of help with that. I don't think, but maybe this will inspire youin a specific way. It's good to have all these things kind of listed out. Itgives you options but yeah again, not like it's not going to likecompletely flesh out your villain is just going to give you basic ideas, andthen you need to make your villain kind of like row from there. It moves on then to villain weaknesses,so a villain's secret weakness, so findingan exploiting a villain's weakness can be very gratifying for players. So,although a smart villain tries to conceal its weakness, a litch, forexample, has a fulactory, which is a magical receptacle for its soul. Thatkeeps that it keeps well hidden, so only by destroying the Falactori cancharacters ensure a lecious destruction. So that's a very basic one. That has an obvious weakness, though. Usually itis very hidden. It is fun to kind of find that weaknessunless you're a party like mine, right Braten, where we find the weakness andtry to use it to gain something out of the fillin instead of just using it todestroy the villain, see in that example, Sai Jordan's Referrin to myhomebrew game, where they just found a a heart. A human heart, even though ithearts that was said to be something that is ableto make the to weaken the villain, thatthey're,eventually going to go up against, but this is going to lead me into a pointthat I wanted to make, and my favorite thing about villains is when you createa weakness that is both unexpected andthat causes a moral dilemma with the party. Now, I'm unfortunately unlucky enoughto have a party that doesn't have morals, so moral dilemmas don't really happenwith you guys, that's right, it's more about! What can we gave? which way? Can we gain more out of? IsOne hundred percent about power and financial gain for you guys which sucks?Because this is actually, I think for any other party. The what's going tohappen here would actually be in intriguing itwould. It would make you think itwould. I don't think that it would be a cut, an rioter as to what to do withthe like. Should we kill this heart that we found, because it's somethingthat you know is attached to, I supposed villain that we've never metbefore. So it's like also you're Alyou're, alljust kind of assuming a lot of things about what that is, yeah yea for sure we don't actually knowanything other than what we've been told, OA lot yeah exactly so we're likemaking stuff up as we go and hope in that it works so which so far as kind of working sortof, probably not as much as we think thot mean one of the one of yourparties literally lost in a magic forest. Yes, so there's that thatit's right,it's fantastic! What's the DMG say about this? The DMG gives you a few differentvillain weaknesses that they talk about here. So a hidden object holds thevillain soul. So you know corcrax.

There is also a the villain's power isbroken if the death of its true love is avenged or the villain is weakened in the presenceof a particular artifact. Actually, let's go back to the last one there. Ithink that one's really cool only because if something like the Villain's truelove is avenged, because I guess it's assuming that thevillain was once upon a time like a good person and their true love waskilled or whatever by an evil person, and so now they've become a villain,and so, if you avenged them by killing off the villain that originally killed their true love, then then you knowmaybe they're weakened and they kind of lose. That will. But I wonder if, likeyou know, villains can still have loves right, so it would be kind ofinteresting if you know they were both evil. Both the villain and it's true. Lovewere evil, and if you avenge the love of that villain, then you're really going andkilling that you know, I suppose a hero. You know. That's always that's alwaysreally fun to me when you're, when you tie that into like combat mechanics aswell right, you could make a very so like if you've ever played any othersort of like URPG Games. You know like enrage timers and things like that,where I'm thinking I'm thinking, if you guys have seen like baby dripers, I think the latest moviethat Goin Represent Tis but the ser, but the sort of like Bonny and cliderelationship right and if one of the two dies in combat the other goes into arage mode, right hen, it's something that the players might not necessarilyexpect, but it would increase it like. It turn up the dial on the the encounter itself, and I thinkit makes for like really dynamic kind of content. That way, I'm sort ofaretrying to play around with that. A little bit obviously haven't been ableto introduce that into any of ther running campaigns that I have notsetting related but kind of just sort of toyint with those ideas but yeah. You know the other thing that that Ifind funny is that weaknesses can be unexpected as wellright yeah I was watching. I was watching the boys on Amazon,prime, I don't know if you guys have seen that series yeah, but essentiallythe the theme is superheros Gone Bad. What happens if Superman? Just realizesthat he could go on a murderous rampage and no one can do anything about it,really right yeah, but when they have worlds based on that,actually in the DC comics I haven't read, I haven't read those yeah. Thosehave not made it to the mainstream media, yet I would say, but the the one thing that comes tomind is one of these one of these villains and the serieusname is black. Noar is just like a invincible. Ninja of sorts happens tohave a penut allergy. Yes, I can imagine if I imagine you'reparty figuring, that out that your litch villain could never get rid of Iits peanut allergy and all of a sudden, you have a barbarian rushing in tryingto stuff nuts an tast bat tr, encater upsidedown. Yes, we need more of lry Fu Austin powersask moments. Ind Dnd, where it's like, like you're interrogating Mousstaff,and it's like all you got to do- is ask him the same question three times,because you can't stand to be asked the same question three times: Donyes obviousi actually qintroducing. Some ofthat, obviously not with you guys,...

...because we've already discussed this lame want to play in an Austin PowerSitt this one villain where you kill, I'm not dead. Very I seem to have gotten hit by ashockclave. All My pones are broken, send out et. That could work that could workwith an undead character. I they really coul like actually is there a mechanicin the game for something like that, like a character that, if brought tozero hip points, they're just immobile, I'm thinking like Zack and legallegends or something right like they kind of they got to piece themselvesback together, yeah, I know trolls can't be killed unless you finish themoff with fire like they have regenerated regenerative abilities, butnothing that like stops moving, I guess, but all right. Well, O I migt justwantn't that my mind just went into half troll lineajes. So let's move onQuika, please right, okay, so other villainweaknesses. Obviously they've got like special weapons that ELEX for damage tothe villains. They've got the villain is destroyed if it speaks its true name,so mixo plexies, or something like that, I think, is the the superman equivalentvillain of that the ancient prophecy or riddle. Thatreveals how the villain can be overthrown, see that one I've been like wrecking my brain tolike make prophecies and sort of that sort of thing for my current campaign that I'm doing, but itis very difficult to make prophecy so I'd like to see like, I guess, a guide or something like that on howto make prophecies on on things just to like make it vague enough that it couldhappen kind of thing and yet gives the characters or that the players like abit of an edge or or some sort of like clues around certain things, withoutgiving away too much it's it's a fine line, that's difficult to come up with.I know some people are really great at it, but I haven't been able to do ityet so strawd actually to go back to Strad.Such strad features a fortune telling feature in it and you can use the one that is givento you in the book in the sourcebook or you canmake my own. They have this thing called a Tarocadec and it's basicallyterra yeah and you can meet with like it's an actual physical product thatyou can buy from wizards. I have a set somewhere down here and you can meet several fortunetellers along the road and Strod, and if you don't want to use the stockprophecies that you have, you can actually like there's instructions onhow to do a full terraca reading for your players, so that it's a bit of arandomized prophecy, but because it's a product, that's link, Wis Traud,there's it's likely that all of those are going to happen. Interesting, yeah, very interesting! That's really cool! I like that yeah itwas. It was a really neat idea. I'd love to see more of that kind ofthing, but like yeah, you don't Wat. You have tomake it like, based on campaigns almost rather than based on settings and that sort of thing yeahalmost so it would make it. I don't know, butmaybe I don't, I don't actually know how those things work exactly so, maybemaybe you can do it based on settings who knows probably someone else if youguys know out there, let me know any any type of materials that can be usedfor this kind of thing, because I want...

...to bring that kind of stuff into mygames. So give me those resources you got but yeah. Let's move on here, we've got the villain falls when an ancient enemyforgives its past actions and the villain loses its power. If a mysticbargain it struck long ago is completed, so those arbl yeah yeah, some of these things couldbe really cool. A lot of them are tropes, of course, so. Iam like like these are more meant forinspiration. I think, of course, so it's again based off bringing it bringit into existence. However, you can kind of thing, no Jordan. These are inthe book. These are the only yes. That's right: Oh, it's the only true way to play: Dndguysit's, to use tables and to role for everything. Yeah. Let's see we running cool on timehere, because there's the villainous options here, we can probably go overit. Pretty Yeh BIC. You got lay minutes, yeah, yeah, all right, cool, okay, sovillainous class options. So this is really cool, so you can use the rulesfrom the players handbook to create mbcs with classes and levels. The sameway you create player characters. Obviously I talked about this a bitearlier. The class options below let you createtwo specific villainous archetypes, so the Evil High Priest and the EvilKnight were Antipaladin. So the death Dominan is an additional domain. Choicefor the clerics and oath breaker offers an alternative path for Paladins whofall from grace, so death bomain it contains domain,spells obviously same with any other cleric. So they've got things likefalse life and Rav f sickness at the beginning. You know: Blindness andDeafness Raven feeblemen in animate, dead, vempire touch, bligt death, wordAntilife, Shell and cloudkill. All things that get added to yourautomatically prepared spells, which is fantastic. They gain the ability to usemartial weapons they're one of the few classes. I thinkwar war domain also gets that option and maybe tempest I'm not a hundredpercent sure on tempest, but pretty sure wardoman gets martialweapons and then they've got reaper here. So this is a really coolfirst level thing, so you learn one NECREMANCI can trip from any spell list and then, when you cast a NEC Romancican trip that normally targets. Only one creature. This felcon insteadtarget two creatures within rain within range and within five feet of eachother. So that's really cool chil touch, Ithink, is, is a good one. Death's Tooll, I don't really know any otherNACRIMANCI cant trips off the top of my head yeah. I don't play. I don't play toomany, but it's cool as a first little thingto you know: double up on your Cam trips is nice, always nice. The channel divinity is thouch of death.So that's where you as a whenever you hit a creaturewith a Meley attack. You can use your channel divinity to deal extra nacraticdamage equal to five plus twice your cleric level, so pretty decent extra damage there,it'll be like going in for the big bad, take them down a few pegs all at once kind of thing, even at second level that deals anextra nine hip points which is like for a player character. That's like halfyour health, yeah...

...inescapable. Destruction is the levelsix feature here. You've got it gives you the ability to become more potent with negative energy,so necrotic damage dealt by clerics spells and your channel divinity optionignores resistance, an acrotic damage, so they it's interesting to note thatthey specifically put that in here, because the next ability is divinestrike which all all Paladins get, which enables you to deal extra anacrotic damage instead of the radiant damage, that's normal for a cleric when you hit a creature with a maleattack. So it's so that damage that comes from ametlayattacks. I guess the resistance still applies. Only your spells and channel divinityare ignore resistance, which kind of sad, I think, and then the last ability here they'vegot is the improved reeper, which is essentially the same as the reaper first levelability for can trips,but now it's for spells for necromance spells one through five, so you canchoose two targets instead of one within range, five of each other ore within five feet of each other.Sorry, so if this welconsumes materialcomponents, the cleric must provide each. You know the components for each ofthem, so be careful how you use that one it can get expensive, although at levelseventeen you probably got lots of cash anyway, yeah Palatin Oath Breaker, so this oneis really cool. I really like the Antipaladan class. It's pretty upawesome, so they specifically staye in here that a oath breaker only comes about when the light burned. Whatever light burnedin a Paladin's, heart has been extinguished and only darkness remains,so you must be evil as a Paladin and at least third level. So I know Bradenloves that part where it says you must be eevil in order to play this Class O.I love that part yeabecause. You hate it. When people say your clatyour alignment matters Yoah,Damn Yo Yo, I man yeah, so welln. That's not really that that doesn'tstrike me as a lignement. That just strikes me as like. No, I guess it is alignment I don'tknow Thi's just triktis like like this is this is like inherent evil right, exactly it's like you had anoath and you've broken it, and you are now like kind of in this darknessyourself, like your character, is consumed by this. This yeah this seemslike the other way around. This seems like this doesn't seem like pigeon holdingsomebody based on their alignetat. This seems like somebody willingly choosingthat right exactly so. I guess that's whyit's included in the DMG and not in the players handbook. Soit's like an option that comes about only in specific circumstances. So, butregardless it is very cool. So oath breakers have to be at least thirdlevel, and then you replace all of yourPalatan feutures. With this new sacred oth. Well, sacred quote: Unquote, so you get new oath breaker spells sohellish rebuke, an flict wouns grown of madness darkness, animate dead, bestow,curse, blight, confusion, contagion and dominate person. Your channel divinities are really cool,so you've got control and dead, so you can control. You can attempt to control and undead.That's within thirty feet of you yeah they make a wisdom, saving throw and ifthey fail, then they have to obey your...

...commands for the next twenty four hours,which is pretty awesome so and Ondead who's challenge ratingthat is equal to or greater than your palatand level is immune to this effect.And then your other channel divinity option is dreadful aspect which isawesome so as an action, the PA Paladan channels is darkest emotions andfocuses them in a burst of magical menace. So each creature of the PALN ischoice within thirty feet of the Palat, an must make a wisdom. Saving throw ifet, can see the Palatin on a failed, save the target is frightened of thePaladin for one minute. If a creature, frightened by this effect, ends itsturn more than thirty feet away, then it can attempt another wisdom,saving throw to end the effect. This becomes really important with itstwentieth level, feature which I'll get into in a second, but first you've gotthe or of hate which upgrades the power of fiends and undead. So all Paladinsget an aura. This one specifically granted bonus Mali weapon damage to feends and undead,which is kind of cool. It means that you are not really going to be helpingyour party for the most part unless you've got a neromancer in your party or some sort of a fiend like a awarlock with a pack that can bring about a fiend throughtheir familiar packed of chains yeah. So it's kind of interesting. Thatway so be careful. I guess, when she's inthis class that Ora might become a little bit useless depending on youryour party. Supernatural resistance is theirfifteenh level, ability which, just straight up, gives them resistance ofbludgeoning, piercing and slashing damage from nonmagical weapons, so theyare constantly in that state of rage, essentially, which is good, it's verynice for them powerful ability, although at fifteenthlevel, a lot of creatures are going to have magical options, so I'm not sure how much it actuallydoes at those levels. I've never really been that high of a level before so I guess it would be kind of cool to see,but twenty fouvle guys twenty level dreadlord is a really cool ability andI'm slightly disappointed with the with something that I'll mention in a bithere. So as an action, you can create an auraof gloom that lasts for one minute, so the aura reduces any bright light in athirty foot radius around the Paladin to dimlight cool thematics awesomewhenever an enemy that is frightened by the Paladin starts its turn in the aura.It takes fourd ten psychic damage. So just straight up. If it's frightened,you take forty ten so that channel divinity dreadful aspect is. I is goingto be awesome here. Additionally, the Paladin and creatureshere she chooses in the aura are draped in deeper shadow, so creatures thatrely on sit, have disadvantage on attack roles against creatures, drapedin the shadow, supernice supernights and then finally, you get a bonusaction to make shadows attack other creatures, which is a Mele, spellattack that you make and if it hits it does thd ten plus your charism on afire. So and then, of course, this is a long rest thing only the drag yeah thing is is that I was. I was slightlydisappointed in one thing: You've only got one way to make enemies, afraid of you. You've got thechannel divinity dreadful aspect and then I went- and I was like okay- maybethere's spells or something that you can throw at...

...creatures to make them afraid of you,but none of them are Pallidan spells. None of the fear, related ones arePalladin spells and they have boath breaker spells here, but none of them create fear in creatures which kind ofsucks, because you want to like double up on that on that dreadlord, you know, options isreally cool, so it just kind of feels feels betd. That way, you know youdon't have any other options other than the one use of channel divinity and if it fails thenyou're not doing anything much. So if it works, it's really cool, but if itdoesn't it's Kiund of just a feels bad and then, of course here it talks aboutthe oathbreaker atonement. So if, if you allow player to tochoose theoath freaker option, you can of course later allow the Palet into a tone andbecome a true Paladin. Once more. So I know Braden kind of had thishappen in his campaign, a little bit which is cool. I love this idea ofPalien's actions matter where you know they can. They can worktowards being this oath, breaker Paladan or they can work towards being theyre their heroic self. I suppose so it's kind of cool that way I like it. I would like to see so. The last thingit says was a Paladin who breaks hiserher sacred of a second time canbecome an oath breaker once more, but it can't atone I'm no. I just picturing like to like Ilike your x, taking you back, but it's likeall right, but just this once this happens again, it's over. That'sexactly it! No more murdering, okay, okay last chance here this is this is Rehab. It's Rehappen!If you fail, it's done. You're done gettig out of here. It's so bad, but yeah. So that's the that's your oath breaker and yourclerick death, Roman! That's all about the villains and we have officiallymade it a two chapter, five guys. So, Oh my God we're almost yeah. No there's still hundreds ofpages left, soer yeah! Don't worry! We've got lots of content ahead again,it's all about the contents. That's right for now, Bradan take her away all right.Let's do some talk of the town that segment, where we ask our listeners, aquestion that we talked about their responses to that question that we talkabout our responses to that question in this segment right here in this week'squestion, is how do you, if at all, handle romance in your game? Yes, for once I've actually already answeredthis, you have- and I so so- Carlos responded to ourinstagram post, which seems redundant saying the same way that Shakespearehandles it. I kill everyone which just makes me think that you haven't readEnough Shakespeare. I mean I've. Only read the books thatwere given to us. EEXACTO go oide s, just tragedies ever like that's halfhis works. All the other works, that's like happy and you have like a bigwedding at the end and everybody lives why that Ma. Fifty percent of the timeyou just kill everyone off yeah, but the other fifty percent of the time itsfine wou got to have the varioust diversity. I see Sidewe side note here,slight tangent, why is it that they only teach the tragedies I learned? Ilearned comedies in school, Wei did tame. I got a tre in great ten.I were a few yeah hear those wet wrold,...

...murder and sadness. Talk to yourteachers, then that wasn't not had nothing to do with thecurriculum and everything to do with what they chose tirk days, yeah yeah. Is that youractual answer? Do you have another one Thas, my actual answerye there's beenno romance in my game, any other than Ihat like players visiting brothels andstuff. That's not Romance Romance, but it's okay! You had. Okay, you had one ofyour characters visit a we all visited a Ericacra kingdom and the princess was very, verywer ma, that's right, so that was sothing. That's true yeah, so I guess the way I handled thatwas making our player. I feel veryuncomfortable at the table. As me, I feel like Thenot fres, not theplay being Frienstan, be friend, stince high school and overly making advances, yeah yeah. She say, but that ast reallycome up that uncomfortable or uncomfortably aroused. I didn't, I mean who knows Ho Om, we'll get up we'll geta MA podcast one of these daysowil Hos y. The book said anybody with Carisma.This high gets gets the SCHLOP Treet, which is interesting because I didn't Ihave a higher charisme than he does yeah wait. You ow you do for lucksmaninteresting yeah, I mean he's a Sorse, so I do have a higher pheson interesting. What about you? Jordan? Oh you on' know you were you were stoneat the time. I think weren't you no now this was prestonification yeah figuryeah. I don't remember it's all it's all history, so you were tetoally wrong. Yes, Braden went and later pretended to bethe princess which was awesome. It was fun that that was hilarious. Thank hewas in comfro yeah or no it's not. How did YOU HANDLE ROMANCE IA? My playersmet oncomfor? I think he had you. He had. You stillpretend to be the princess right, but he was like he gave you permission toact that way yeah as yeah, which was awesome. I loved that that washilarious because everyone believed that it really was the princess thereright up until the moment that Braden turned back into Bradon Gita or is init was great, so good loved it so other than for good laughs. I meanyou know what else is romance for right, so I guess for my campaigns. Ispecifically included that kind of stuff. In my session zero, where I waslike. Okay guys, you know sexual content, I'm not really going toinclude in this it's. You know that I'm just kind of putting that up there, I'mnot GOINGTA wher. It's going to be like a fade black situation. If that happens, if you you know want to pursue, you know like, I guess, an a romantic relationship with any of thecharacters in it. Then you know we can talk about that and that's fine. It just know that it will be me that isgoing to be acting as these characters, and I will do my best to kind of make it acceptable. But like I don't know howfar to go with that, and so it's just kind of was a conversation that I hadwith the group, and the group kind of you know said Yeah. That sounds finekind of thing n and you know it hasn't come up yet,...

...but it is an option out there that I'veleft for them or I've said you know. If, if that's something you want to do inyour campaigns and in the campaign and that's fine, you know it gets a little bit moretricky, I think, with interparty stuff. So I'm not sure how how much to likeit's a confusing like section, I guess so. It's just kind of been left out inthe open where we've had a conversation and we've said okay, you know this isacceptable if everyone's here, if everyone here is cool with that, thenthen well run with it and everyone kind of said: yeah, that's fine, but if anyone ever gets uncomfortablethen you know just say it and will just kind of drop it there, because that'sfine, no one wants to make anyone uncomfortable in any way. So this isall just kind of for fun and for Pretendn, so you know, let's, let'skeep it that way. So that's a conversation that you havewith you. Your players ahead of time is super useful. I think hundred percentten outo ten would recommend you do that inercession, zero type thing because yeah, otherwise it can get kindof like awkward, and you don't know how far the person's going to go so yeah have that conversation make sureeveryone's comfortable and then proceed from there. I'm yeah, I don't got answer yeah, Iwould say, I'm generally inclined to agree player versus n PC romance is always fair game. In mygames I mean that's not to say that theplayers can just instantly seduce any NPC. They want, because at the playersan sill a romance right exactly, but that's that's welland there's a difference between seducing someone. I think El Nice yeahthat's fair yeah, but yeah. I'm. I run that all the timeI'm right there with you any kind of player player interactions would have to be agreed onahead of time. I think that that's an important point of Te Sission zero, although I would like to to use the sin to point out my most niche bit of d, an d trivia that I have,which is that for three point: Five, there is a ASECOND party source like a sorry thirdperty sourcebook that is notorious on the interwebs known as thebook of Eurotic Fantasy. That is actual rules, because I think everybody thesedays or everybody I've ever met does the same usual fade to black kind ofthing. Anytime, there's any kind of implied sexuality in this, but thisbook includes a full rule set on how to have sex in your game, which is justridiculous and mind boggling, and I don't know who went through and madethe rules for this. Just the fact that it exists is enoughto just make me smile. It's just funny to me that somebodyactually did that, but looking over, we got a coupleresponses from this society. This week. Looking over a Instagram, we had Dr Matt at Yugi say why? Sorry isn't that what role play isfor Winky Face Winketis Hmy God Matt? Yes et wait. Have I been playing theindiaronthe entire time over on our community discord? We gotan actual response. Good old D, Geps doesn't usually come up. To be honest.I've had pcs that want to seduce or whatever and we're aladults. So we knowwhere the lines in the social...

...contractar any sexual stuff is strictly afade toblack wake up the next morning kind of thing: unless there's a reason not todo this skip, which is, I was like w a. What does hemean by thet? Then he included you, for example, if you're doing it to steal something off of the NPC or to assassinate them a like it's kindof a honeypot situation, right which honestly I would have thought,would have come up in one of our games at least once given her ridiculousplace tons. I'm surprised that, given the diversityof players we have that has not come up at all yeah again. I think it's that socialcontract, almost like the implied one where it's like you know, people are alittle bit more nervous on unless you like, you got to have that conversation.So people understand, I guess, right yeah, and ifyou can't have that conversation, then it's almost like yeah, then it's nothappen. That's if you, if you're, not mature enough to have this conversationat your table, you're not mature enough to be doing this at your table exactlyso yeah and I like, like I get the I get the social contract aspect, but the conversation is still important andmaybe that's what he made by that. Maybe he did just yeah conversationbefore M, but that's going to do it for thisepisode of triple of vantage. If you like what you hear and you want to bepart of the conversation check out our social medias, that's at Royal CitySociety on Instagram at royal citys social on twitter links to thecommunity. Discord can be found in both keep it locked there. We've got a totof new content Caminacyou. Eventually, I've said that every week for e week,rli yeah three months now with no new content, but it's coming. I promiseit's coming, I'm looking at it right now. It's right there yeah, keep it locked, we'll see younext or.

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