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Triple Advantage

Season 3, Episode 5 · 1 year ago

Ep. 33 - Trends and Licensing

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On today's Triple Advantage, Carlos walks us through DM's Guild trends and licensing information, Jordan begins our guided tour of the Outer Planes, and we listen to your opinions on whether homebrew or prewritten content is the way to go.

On today's episode of triple advantage,Carlos walks us through DM skilled trends and licensing information,Jordan begins our guided tour of the outor planes and we hear your thoughtson whether home, Brue or prewritten content is the way to go, has alwaysfollower social media pages to keep up with the conversation and see ourlatest updates firstall right, so four Um, the Echos today guys Um. I dug this. Iwas digging a little bit into the UM licensing and the general rules andrequirements for posting content like we have been on DM skilld Um. This was because last week Bri, you H, you notice again again Um with each releasing source book comingfrom wozers of the coast, H, DM's, Gilds, incentivizing m creatorsto write content for that book. Now, Britin. You brought this up to me, butso what were your thoughts? Why did you mention it back then? Well, I don'tknow if incentivizing is the right word, necessarily it's just. Whenever a newsource book comes out, DM Kild, in probably any site that deals in dndcontent, is flooded with a billion new entries that have to deal with the newsource book. So when Theros came out, it was all adventures and new subclassideas and all this stuff for theros. When Um, I can't think f the tomb ofanihilation came out. It was the same thing wish all this chilty and typestuff, and now I log onto DM Gild and like five of the. What is it seven oreight that are displayed for the h? Most recent entries are probably goingto be related to ice. Windale LNOTO ththey have a full banner ad on theLastso, true alsotr, and I think that that's because and I'm not going to say like I don'tthink that there's anything of substance in these Um in these modules that are coming up.But I think that when a new thing comes out, there's so muchhype already going on around it that it gives people license to pretty muchjust be able to sell whatever they want related to it, because everybody'sgoing to be so attracted to reading anything new about icewindaleit'sit's, the new flavor of the month. What's what's going on with that, sothey're GOINNA flock over they're Goingno, see that there's all theseadventures they're going to look for Tiants to their own campaign that theycan have ready to go when the module comes out and ready to run. Maybethey're going to have stuff leading up to it. So they're going to look forsomething like that, like an intero adventure, and it really like lets content creatorsget in there and just sell so many copies, because it's it's just whateverybody's doing at the time, and I think that there are a lot the nicefeature of Dem Gild is that it shows you like what the most popular areright now and what a lot of people are buying and that kind o helps you, I'm not going to say like filterthrough this stuff. That isn't good sure. Some of it's really good. Thatgoes relatively unnoticed, but it helps you see what most people arebuying about. Most people are reviewing as really really good verses. Lookingthrough the thousand plus and new entries in seeing like Yep, this onelooks: okay, this one's terrible H, this one's this one's really good. I'mgoing to use this one, but I think yeah. I think it's just the same as anything else as soon assomething new comes out, then it gives you pretty much free license just ratewhatever you want about it and somebody's going to buy it 'cause. It'sthe new thing to a certain extent, it's also likeinspiration when something new is...

...coming out. Your mind automaticallygoes to that like. Oh, this would be really cool in that so P, I guess wouldbe at least some of those content craters out there are just like. Oh, Ijust came up with this idea because I have this in my head. Yeah, no sure Idon't at want to sound ocinical about it. I don't want to sound like that's.That's just oh yeah sure it's a lot easier to yea. If someone were to comeup with a nice windale thing like I don't know like six months eight monthsfrom now, even it's probably going to be less popularthan it would have been if they were to do it now kind of thing frexactly likeAn- and I think that I think that also the rush for people to get it out insuch a short span of time to kind of Jump On that bandwagon o results in alot of kind of half baked content. Yeah, a lot of stuff is just kind of O K, ornot really that great, you think our content is half Bakdefnitly a in Sogram, slash, royality society. Well, definitely when I, whenI first started, writing and putting ut content prior to working with you gusas the society I um, I have at least one module- that's relatively poorlyreviewed on dimskild for good reason, because I wrote it and I was like yeah. I could spend sometime and review this and shop it out to some people, or I could put it outright now when people are going to start buying it. So I put it out then,and it's really not that good of content. I hope to one gay go back andrevise that so that it's better, but I can, I can absolutely see a lot ofpeople doing that being like yeah. I could. Icould spend all this time. Work shopping it or I can put it out nowwhen it's almost guaranteed to get at least some people buying it, becauseeverybody's buying up all this ice, wind, Dal stuff and to foreent. Bothreviews are good right because I wanta H, Yo s Wran, to hear feed back rightand then use that feedback for workshopping itself. Right like it'sjust it's the creative process. There absolutely see. I don't think that it'snecessarily a cynical outlook on it right and you're. I think just withregards to this particular genre. Read like D N D: Pecifically was it to thecoast in their newest release M, but you can see this across all sorts of tcreative mediums right, like you have music that comes out and then all of asudden, this giant popsong makes a lot of artists now be inspiredby it and all of a sudden music kind of sounds similar. For you know a ouple ofmonths right, like all these releases on sound cloud, starts on like haveelements atd you're like okay, I see H, people are picking up, billy, eylishstyles and whatever yehad another trap, rap single. I see I see exactly Um, soI think it's it's interesting N, just H. Reading the licensing, documentationand fs on this ite actually proves M to a lot of insight as to why they promoteUm. This kind of m collective writingtowards specific subgeners in this world. Part of the reason that DM skill allowsyou to use their or CE wizards of the coast allows you to use their Ip on. Dms Gill is so that they can get. Youknow the forgotten realms to have hundredsand hundreds of stories crafted write the ideas just necessarily to have more content reach more writers, so that people can build off and Umcreate a deeper world for what is you know the forgotten realms? So with that in mind, actually I thinkmy cynical perspective comes from the fact that we've seen now that we have ahuge market for this kind of content, so whizards of the coast is releasing newsource books. I feel very quickly now yolike withlegal legends, how they started releasing more and more skin ye oncethe popularity started increasing it's...

...not to so that you know that these arebad source books, but I think you know h with child. Therewere so many stories that were written for and really you know, I guess you can move through content somuch faster now, because you have so many more people interested in n in thehobby, but I I would be so interested to have these phases. You know justthinking about my experience with world warcraft Um, because the expansionscame out so seldomly. You know Um when I joined in with he wrath of theLich King. It was a couple of years that I played in wrath and I I reallygot to dive into you, know northrand and the the Lore behinded doing all thedaily quests from it. So I think this kind of takes away from that sort ofRPG element where maybe a lot of players are now moving through allthese settings. All these places so quickly that nothing really you know,and especially with newor stories. Maybe players are like sticking to themfor that long, Igttoyou're not really experiencing. You know this eight monthterm in icoon Dale. Now, right, it's going to be this Qick two month thing:okay, we were there once and now we're moving on to the next setting, which is, I guess, a little a littlestrike at the the nerd in me. That's that really wants to Um. You know spendsome time in these particular things, and I think that's why I've reallyenjoyed running like to of annihilation for so long in part is because I feel now very like comf likecomfortable with just like the story itself and the saying that we'replaying in and I'd love to continue doing more stories in it. Now that I'mlike up to speed with it, you know, but I also understand that it can alsobe like a little yes, it's we've been in the rain for so long l t Lok et e,get us out of here. Please um yeah S as a DM. It's definitelydefinitely something like you e, like Oh. I got used to this area and knoweverything that's here and that we possibly do when there's so many likelittle secrets and things like that that I want to share with the group,but the group doesn't really necessarily know that, so they kindo go.Okay, we've been here, let's move on, AH exactly they're like O, we we did.The clest like ont, get the fuck out of the Cold Ma Yeah. I'm I hate it when, like I writea really good one shot and like t I have like all these tiny little Eastereggs hidden and these tiny litter things they can find and the group Theiwas LIKEC. You want to do anything in this room t that GRUEP was like nowwe're just going to move on and I'm just like you shirt sure you don't want to makeinvestigation. Sh can see which s that a problem can do that, but um I'm going to haveto start reading between the lines with you. It's a yeah. I I agree to some extent Carlos.I I feel, like tthe rate, the contents being put out,it's becoming people become really add, setting wiseand like wanting to jump here and thereand everywhere Um, and I onehundred percent, I'm like I'm enjoying to of niolation a lot because we get todive so much into chilt and spend so much time like leaning and flashing out.This really awesome place m Mi d, just just a little disclaiminghere. This is a bit of a layer thought that I've had here, and it's definitelyunder the assumption that Um that we have an influx of a lot ofnewer players that are being exposed to a lot of content right away. So it'slike at whole, when you buy into this hobby, you tend to like grab a lot ofthings like I did like. I did personally right, like thoes twoadventure books that I I want to go through as well, and that's why thiscontext switching is going to happen right, but at at that same time, like Ifeel like I should have, you know gone into a little bit slower and the factthat they're, releasing more content is sort of. You know spurring a little bitthat thatsuss under an assumption on newer players and newerdms as a whole,just behavioral assumption, but Ioer...

Si'm kind of I'm kind of at a pointwhere I don't really want to keep moving like one campaigninto new settings. But I want to start like a campaign in each setting whichthere's not enough days in the week. I could that if I ran one session a daythan be obscene Um, so it's it's it's becoming. I see why people do it. B'cause it'sbecome at a point where I do want to explore all of these places, and I wantto see all the things that they have in store. But like it's, it's activelylike tearing me in about eighteen different directions, plus like I'vegot like Calif Katulu city behind me that we're just talking about D and dlike we're not even talking about every other table top game, you could beplaygot yeah, it's like when you get that, like brandnew giant R PG game, that's supposed to take hundreds of hours and stuff likethat and you're like yes, I can't wait till hundred percent this, and then youget to the fifty percent mark and you start going. Oh my gosh. I put hundredsof hours into this time to change it up a little bit here,a the other Lo so y also I want to hit. I want to hit a hundred. I want to know. I have to it's just athink so with my little digging M. I alsodidn't know this, but I was surprised to fiund that you coal actually buyprinted copies of material on DM sgilds. Have you have you guys ever bought aprint copy of anything off of the site? No, but I do know that was availablefirst for some modles. I think that it has to do with like people that areactually willing to put their stuff into print. I don'tknow, is it DMS kild that does the printing for them or you have it andthen Ai Wi within the licensing, there's actually a closet sates thatyou cannot get this product printed and sold on your own? Oh, so you got to gothrough them, so you have to go through them, but they also have it on alimited appeal process. So Um they essentially you pitch your contentat them Um, and they will contact you back if they are, if they see it as aworth as a worthy venture of pursuing with regarts to your printed wit, theHighe. This hybrid license sort of printed content, which I think makessense, because Um Wizards would want to protect anyprinted content off of their IP, which falls perfectly in line. I justthink that it's a little bit, you know if you want to get like a printed bookof your iestory. You really got to stuff your DM chops and like reallyround out how you're going to get this printed and probably invest yourself inthe process of it. 'cause uh they're not going I'm assuming it's more oflike Yur, you have already made product and we can pursue this. It's inlinewith all of our setting rightand. With that in mind, right, like anything thatyou print can't e, can only include the content allowed within DM skel, which Ithink it's just like H, Ebiron, probably uh Tesorvia, the AROBEA sorsCosta, I'm trying to find it here Um. I think it's like it's on each licensingthing I h yeah, so setting heonerl, untergoten, realms Te, Ravenloft,Eberon and Ravnica contents. Yes, Rapica, not weares, no interesting, Ithink 'cause Chals, Cha y for the time being only forgotten Rom,a Rae, loft, Eberon, Ravnica and theros are permitted, Teroi, Anteni, neutral and setting. Ithink, there's just a couple of UH EDIT UM edits. I ned to be made on this page.It's actually two points back to back here, but they just added Pharos ontoone but o the other got Um, but yeah, so that, actually, if you now, thisdoes not include content like wildment...

...or any third ND ardy content for thatmatter. So even I bent into a vernus and the thegamaernus's yeahvernuses forgotten, Roms, technically, no, but thecharacter's in there. You cannot use cruel, for example, or Arken in stories that you publish towards theemsguild mm interesting, and it makes sense like I they theycan't license content that they don't own right, 'cause! That's that's! Those arecharacters. I guess created by Joaaand, his ARAE team and I assume Matti Mercer and theirtheir Um production studio are smart enough tohold on to the rights for their own contents as well, even if theolishingthrough hisre is poswhat's interesting about. That is that I was M: try to tiea couple more strings together and with regards to critical role, they sort ofhave the same thing going on with their own community right, although it's alittle bit less um established as a DM's guild kind ofpage and forum, but you see lots of their content, get published on. Youknow their twitters and whatnot, and whenever critical role catches aglimpse of community Cret content that they want to incorporate into their IP,they personally reach out to those artis as well, and that's why you havea lot of community made. You know the artwork for the box, Marketn a butt ratright and all f these third party things thatmaybe critical role was looking for at the time. And then you know you find acommunity artist and you go hey great we'd like to work with you towards thispublished venture right because they're creating so many toys at this pointright, there's! No way that, like like the reasonably se with the funcopopsand with everything else, righ like these other. You know. Manufacturersare now raching to the creative content of a critical role and going hegus. Wewant to print your shit right because fonkr has already done that withwizards as well. You know you have hem agic to gathering characters so nowthey're, just pointing it to the other. You know, sub genre of you knowcritical role and the content that involves an Um Wild Bot. Then my mind's blanking carbrn OAS,Approvsco te critters, please M, but anyways Um interesting littlethings a little bit of a deep dime, ' been to just what's alive, hit's notallowed, but I think it's important as to be sort of for to more and morecontent on our page as well, because I think it would be fun to have. I know that there's a lot ofpe a lot of the MS in the area. Maybe we can start talking to them about likelocally sourcing content for a communal world who knows will definitely keep the audience Updato the society here, Um with any updates o that in the future episodesof triple advantage. But I think with that, I have ran out of time for mysegment: Si Jordan Realyso for divining the DMG today we're moving on to pagefifty nine we're talking about the outer planes. Last last time we talkeda little bit about like what the outorplanes are and some of the optional rules that cankindof go along the lines of that and we talked about the impinate staircaseand the river sticks all that kind of jazz to how you get there and that sortof thing, but today we're going to go over um the specific places. So I think there'ssixteen. If I am remembering correctly here, um total we'll see how many weget through before I run at a time here, but they're actually going to be reallyinteresting. I think m. So this is for...

H it. It tells you a little bit abouteach of the different places and one of the optional rules that can go alongthat place. Should your adventures ever end up h, there M so without further Du. Let's move onto Mount Celestia. That is the first place that we'regoing O talk about. It has I'm just going to look back and forth here backto page fifty eight M, where it talks about the oter planes and there's alist there. So the allignment of Mount Celestia is lawful, good, so justkindof keep that in mind and a'll flip back and let everyone know as we moveon Um, so Mount Celestia is a single sacred mountain that rises from thesilver sea to heights that are barely visible and utterly incomprehensible,with seven plateaus that market seven heavenly layers this plane is the modelof justice and Order of Celestial, grace and endless mercy were angels andchampions of good guard against incursions of evil. It is one of thefew places on the plains where travelers can let down their guard. Itsinhabitants strive constantly to be as righteous as possible, countlesscreatures aimed to reach the highest and most sublime peaks of the mountain,but only the purest sols Cann gazing toward that peak fills even the mostjaded travellers with awe so Braden I'm. Unfortunately, I don't think you'llever be able to go here, not of Bycharactersvan come close to etemte these citicoty requirements Saat. Somuch yeah this, it makes sense. To me, this is coolsounds like sounds like a Paladins best dream. Oh yeah m sounds like wher. Theywould strive to end up mhm a hundred percent Um. It also, I think itmentioned in here that it's one of the few places that people can let downtheir guards. I don't know about that. I feel like ifI was an evil character on this plane. I would have my guard up a lot Um but yea. I guess if you're a goodcharacter, you're fine, so the optional rule here is blessedbeneficencs, in contrast to the dessonantsexperienced by evil creatures. Here, good creatures are literally blessed bythe pervasive beneficence of the plan. Creatures of good alignment gain thebenefit of the blessed pell as long as they remain on the plane. In addition,finishing a long rest on this plane grants a good creature. The benefit ofthe lesser restoration spell. So this is just good things. All Arannot allow that's pretty hot elike when you're at the level wear 'cause. This seems like a lot tome, but like when you're at the level, where you're traveling Tomout Celestiathat's decently, trivial, you have blessed yelland like even lesser resporation yeah. That seems life, something you would already haveby like level. What six seven yeah bus wells like what an extra d foron saving throlls and attack roles. I think yeah, not not a bad thing to havefor sure, but no M, yeah and LESSA restoration would just cure likepoisons and such right, so Wellat's actually like. I don't know like if you're think aboutit. It's an extra plus one on attack rols right, like an extra plus on on amagic, Aempyeah, yeah yeah. So it's not something to to to sort ofbrush off at even hirher levels. I don't think no fair enough. What do you think about like like wouldall of the creatures there they'll also have this benefit? Are Creature? That's good! I guess yeah.I would think yeah, okay, so, like all the angels and stufflike that, I I assume would also be...

...under the influence of this. So if youare fightenend against them, like it's not really an advantage, but I guessyou know everyone has that benefit. That goes on Yeahdon't, be an evilcharacter here, guys, okay, so the next one here m. So thesemove pretty quickly like it's just short little stuff. So that's why I'mKinda reading through M A little bit more wordfor word here Bitopia. This is the two layers of the twinparadises of Bitopia are similar yetopposite one is tamed a tamedpastoral landscape and the other is an untamed wilderness. Yet both reflectthe plane's goodness and its acceptance of law and order when necessary,Bitopia is the heaven of productive work. The satisfaction of a job welldone, the goodness flowing through this plane, creates the feelings of goodwill and happiness in creatures dwelling there. So bitopia is a neutralgood, lawful, good alignment um place, and yes, it has two differentalignments which I think is odd, but I suppose it works, especially since BITOPIA has twodifferent sections here, trying to make sense. I, like I, like that, um it kind of accepts in here that,because especially when you're dealing with like Paladins and that kind ofgood alignment, a lot of the time as as characters, it's it's interesting to remember that the idea of goodness isn't always. Thisrigid adherence is not always the zoom one hundred percent absolute thing andthe fact that they include that, like there's like this untamed wilderness,that seems chaotic, that seems disorganized, but it's still like areflection of goodness is. Is Nice. I, like the EAJET, and I think what theyrwhat they're putting in here is is kind of like telling you that good, isn'tnecessarily just about morals either it's a little bit here about. You knowa job. Well done, you know doing productive work. You know this is likethe farmers, heaven kind of thing: Yeah, that's the VI, I'm kindo getting fromthis one Um, so the optional rule that goesalong with this one is pervasive. Good will, which is at the end of each longrest. Taken on this plane, a visitor that is neither lawful, good or neutralgood must make a DC. Ten wisdom saving throw on a failed, save the creature'salignment, changes to lawful, good or neutral good, whichever is closer tothe creature's original allignment. This change becomes permanent if thecreature doesn't leave the plane within one d four days. Otherwise, thecreature's alignment reverts to normal after one day spent on a plane otherthan by topia casting the dispel evil and good spell on the creature alsorestores its original alignment. This is one of the optional rules thatI wouldn't use. Yeah Kana talked about it last week. I I like the last onethat kind of gives you benefits for playing your character ina certain way. Yea Ave, yeu benefits for being lawful good and acting thatway, this one kind of like I it it almost like forces you to change howyou're playing a character MHM- and I don't I- I really don't like this newlyopposed to Thiv. What do you think karlosabout kind ofhaving to change your character based on something like this? I mean INC, I mean in Cheltz. Sorry I don't knowwhat was happening there I mean in Chaltz. U...

You guys have been processed for solong that I feel like in part. That's partof the mechanic of the last dungeon at the veatthe veryleavs. You know it's part of it. I've tried to be very clear that youknow you still have your own free will to act, but Um. There is some sort of R P rewarto have that. You know like it's a weird balancer because, like inpart,right, like with your character in particular, Jordan Newt is a normally brash character thatjumps into any form of danger. Yet he's been sort of possessed by this daty that is kind of you know skittish and wantsto get away from danger. So I don't want to take away from yourcharacter in the same sense, but you know t the. On the other hand, I alsowant to finish this dungeon. So if you are APP that Tocession fully you justbleeve right, yeah sothat's, not good, either yeah, it's true it's it's, I'm not sureUm. How much I would do this. I mean changing a person to a neutral goodalignment, isn't usually going to change theircharacter overall too much here, like Um yeah, I mean unless their character wasflat out like chaotic evil. Before you know, then then then I'd be like ohwell. You know this is just a complete flip for you kind of thing, but aneutral good alignment. You you can play like your character, a little bitmore. I I would just say like while you're in Bitopia KINDOF think. Maybeyou are more keen on on doing something. That's,productive and and good for society. Kind of thing like tame the Wilderness,kind of thing, Um do something that is going to beproductive, don't just ways around or or do whatever makes. You feel goodkind of thing. It's it's more like hey, there's like stuff that you can do here.I don't know. Maybe I would maybe I would just say: Hey, there's you getthese impressions or these feelings. Maybe I wouldn't make them do like afull wisdom. Saving throw followed by your alignment is now different kind ofthing, I'm not sure, but yeah society. Let us know what you thinkabout these kind of things as we go through them. Moving on, Elisium is the next one,which is a neutral good place. Elysium is the home to creatures of unfetteredkindness and compassion, a welcome refuge for plainer travellers seeking asafe haven, the planes, Teca bocolic landscapes, glimmer withlife and beauty in their prime tranquillity, seeps into the bones andsouls of those who enter this plane. It is, it is the heaven of well earnedrest a place where tears of joy glisten on many a cheek Hav Mu go. Can I go here? Please I need a vacation. I think we all need a vacation. This is my. This is my least favorite.So her really even more thanesly left yeah.Well, no mouse, elessiis cool, that's just kind O SEAMS BLA! Ah I see just as a DM. I mean like it justseit's cool, it's pretty fantastic right, masole se seem cool like it has thesethese tears that has low and Oderon people constant vigilance, looking outfor like enemies like Yvitopia Bitopia, yes, Platopia has like these two likethis dualistic nature. Alisium is, is, is pretty YEP trancleer, it's like a sanctuary.Basically, if you're running away from people, it might be the place to go.Inpi...

...a house then like a hydrognn extradimensional House Lor, if you're trying to hide someone away like you know, ifyou don't want your family to be caught up in some sort of war kind of thingyou sent them to Alysium, but I thillieve not permanentlyCelestia was also a haven. Was it not like a resting point o like a safeplace? It is a safe place where you can let your guard down kind of thing forsure, but it is not like. I I don't know like Alesium gives methat, like sanctuary field, whereas, like I feel like, if you end up inMount Elessia and you're, not like this lawful good person, all the time, they might start to say hey do youreally belong here like what are you doing here? I don't know if I want youaround, like I saw you, you know just make fun of this person or slap thatguy or you know, try to like get take advantage of someone. You know I don'tlike that. Get Out of my plane kind of thing at lease feels like Kinda. Almostanything goes, but you're more supposed to just be, like you know, relaxedchill, take a breath I feel like. If I rent Alisium in mycampaign, it would be a day spot, yeah, absolutely so you're in world, where gold incurrency has turned into thesort of level game level. So your high levelcreatures are the only ones I Gan Jus, like Yah. I took an evening in ElusiumN, my bacus a little Sol from the other day. Meanwhile, you have like hrampantdestruction everywhere else great, so the optional rule for this one isoverwhelming. Joy is what it's called. So this is a visitor spending. Any timeon this plane risk becoming trapped by overwhelming sensations of contentmentand happiness at the end of each long rest. Taken onthis plane, a visitor must make a DC ten wisdom. Saving Throa on a failedsave the creature is unwilling to leave the plane before taking another longrest. After three failed saving throws thecreature never willingly leaves the plane and, if forcibly removed, doeseverything in its power to return to this plane. A dispel, evil and good spell removesthis effect from the creature, the Lotus Hotel in casino. I take back everything I said about ales to, and yes, I am now one hundred percentrun ouis o day SPA. I love that o this optional rule just made it agreat place. Yeah no change everything. Eithe ded not lead with this yeah thatShud be aptional that should be just inherent in the planlike. This optionalrule makes this place from Ha golike. It turns this place from this verybeautiful and you know final destiny, willing final destination to verydistopic, and you know: entratment kind, OFAN,entratment, kind of Environment Rightt's like it's, not n, California, bidinto. It whan interesting thought. When,considering that this is, you know a plane, maybe where you'd be taken inthe afterlife right. So like is the light at the end of the tunnel. You Y,U you see Alisiu, you know maybe have a session with that player of them tspending one day in Alysium. You know, as their dying breath is happening, who lot of thematic maasaments of thison? Oh, it's great! Ah Man. I can't believe that that's anoptional rol, just just Zoro that...

...should be that should be a wotle roof o right, I'm not sure how any of theother places are going to top this. But let's keep going here. We got thebeastlands. The beastlands here, let's see, is aneutral good, chaotic, good, Um plane. So the beaslance is a plane of nature.Unbound of forests, ranging from Mosshung mangroves to snow laden, Pinesof thick jungles, where branches are woven so tight that no light penetratesof vast plains, where grains and wildflowers wave in the wind withvibrant life, the plan enbodies nature's wildness andbeauty, but it also speaks to the animal within all living things. So this is just junkle town, that'spretty cool yeah! Again, I'm sure I'm going to eat mywords as soon as he'll happen, Ola buterthat's, it's it seems, okay yeah.It just seems like this kind of g. You know it's a jungle, it's a place wherethere's lots of wildlife and stuff like that, there's a little better than justBasicalisia, not by his name. So there's actually two optional rulesfor this one, which is interesting so optional, rule number one is hunters:Paradise visitors to the beast lands find theirhunting and stocking capabilities. Improved and characters have advantageon wisdom, animal handling and wisdom, perception and wisdom survival trecks,while there so again, I'm kind of like curious wouldlike all creatures. I I guess it would be like all like intelligent creatureswould have advantage on these kind of things like would gain this benefit.Yes, like e beasts of the land, wouldn't gain this benefit or wouldwolves suddenly become like way better at tracking? That's a good question. Imean they're already amazing, but you know so. The second optional rule here isbeast transformation. When a visitor, slays, a beast nativeto the plain, the slayer must succeed on a DC ten charisma saving throw orbecome transformed, as the POLYMORP smell into the type of beast that wasslain in this form, the creature retains itsintelligence and ability to speak at the end of each long rest, thepolymorph creature can repeat the saving throw on a successful saving,throw the creature returns to its true form. After three failed saving throws,the transformation can be undone only by a remove curse or similar magic. It's a neat idea. Yeah. I have ihave two variations on these optional rules thatI'd like to try. Okay, I'd like to make the hunters paradise permanent after acertain time, so, basically, just being in this plane, yew, eventually byessentially Osmosis, become just fantastic at animal handling. Hiserrival 'cause you're, just spending old yeah on this jungle. It feels likeyou should be able to carry that over yeah. The other thing- and this wouldbe really scoffed in it- don't know how Iwould run this, but essentially as soon as they enter the plane, have everysentiong creature just become an animal just behom, whatever animal is closestto their counatrats and use the DM she wan Orin figure that out and figuredout what they would become it. It's becomesLion King, essentially not only you know what Tho like withthat thought in my head, this kind of turnsinto a very Jumanji type yeah setting right. It's almost like, if youcould tie in some sort of story of like...

...maybe the yawning portal takes you tothese Um to these outer planes. You know Youlland and some of them, when you have these miny adventures, were you're now turned into randomanimals. Reminds me H, kingdom, harts too, when you visit a yeah, righ, hor or yeah yeah Kentemarts do when youvisit any type of weird plane where they ye ama worm, Ou Ecoh, whatever's,a native to a denizen of that plane or whatever yeah I like it Um. What do one thing I have noticed is onall of these wisdom, Saveeng throats and such that I've been made so far or charisma Um they've set the DC at ten, which I meanmy impression is that you visit these kind of lands like way late in the game, yeat kind ofthing, but a DC ten later on in the game whenyou've got all kinds of gear that should be helping you with savingthrows and you've got. You know. Hopefully your stats are are decent. Atthis point, a DC ten is like less than fifty percent chance that you're goingto fail kind of thing yeah. I don't think that it's supposed to beso much like a hurdle that they have to overcomeverses like this very small element that adds another layer and has achance of kind of just derealing everything with something like ifyou're stuck in Elucium, that that that's not just like a hurdle toovercome, like that. That's TAT, potentially campaign derailing, yeahabsosolutely duck on this plane for your entire life, the same with the beast transformationif you're, just like stuck as an animal for the veral future, that's not reallysomething that, like, Oh, oh, how we got ourselves into this mess. Now,that's like O. Okay! This is my life. Now, yes, who I am Rola new character? Oh yeah, I don't know well, you know what, like, I guess atDC ten when you're H N, when this isn't the main point of your campaign is, isacceptable kind of thing Wy. If you, you could easily make this like intothe campaign. You know like you, could take these lands and you can kind of maybe amalgamate them together in somesort of you know, Utopia or whatever. I don't know whatit's called but like a place where all of these planes would exist altogetherkind of thing and you could travel to the different districts or whateverthat represent each of these different places or or you know, have some sortof transportation between the planes become a lot simpler and you can justhave an entire campaign set in the outer planes omely. Oh my God. Oh myGod. Oh my God, your entire campaign setting his disneyworld and the yeowraild track te oter planes, ipeissue yeah, I mean I mean, there's no ID on a monorail yeah, but I' going back to CARTLOSS'searlier point. If there's not a homebrew item, that's just a randomboard game and rolling a warm transport suito e befens Han undisapoine aninmuities opthe Jumagi board. That would be pretty cool all right. So do you guys think Ishould keep going here or should we call it there and now what Wan? Howlong have we been talking? What are we looking at yeah? Ah, it's been quite abit. Actually, I think I'm just switchin yeah. I thinkit's about time. We switche it up. We have some good talks here, so yeah Freden, if you don't mind, takeOtr away before we jump it to sack the...

...town. I just want to say that thisepisode of triple advantage is sponsored by the fires below the hitmodule kind of a head module from the rural stat' Society Um, the town thatyour party is staying, an is suddenly beset by multitude of firs coming from the minesbelow. Is it simply in error in minding, or is it something more? Your partiesasked to investigate. This is a three to five hour venture for level tenplayers, including new NPCs, a new location, N, unique maps that you can use inorder to help your players staplocks for new creatures that are found belowand new matic items to reward your players with available now on DM Skild,and now it is time for talk of the town, which is the lovely lovely segmentswhere I os a question to the three of us here and also to you, this societylistening at home, Vi our social media channels. We answer, we see what yousaid. We compare. We talk about things. Sometimes we yell at each other, ithappens. Um. Let's talk about today's question,which it's it's a pretty simple question. We could just answer it andmove on, but I don't want to do that. I think we should actually talk about.why Um do you prefer running homebrew campaigns or do you preferrunning prewritten modules at the end of the day? Doesn't it allturn to Hombrew wlets talk about that? What O you? If,if you, if you had to not even in the abstract like those,are the Binar Rychoices? What would you pick m? I like running Humbersof. I definitelyhave been enjoying the running the newer adventures by homber.I do mean, like an an amalgamation of Um stories, that I'm sort of stitching myown story, pacing and Um. You know feel to Um largely there's a lot ofelements that I do like to pick from pregenerated stuff M to put together.So I'd say that my level of hombrew hasn't been, as involved with regarts, to creatingevery aspect of a story from scratch, but I think that's where we get intothe grey area of with where I think this conversation is going to go, whichis where the what is homebrew- and you know where does homebrew turn intosomething. You know that's a little bit more pregenerated mbut. Personally, Ithink Um from my experience. I really love the homebrew elements, much morethan the preewritten ones, and I think that's just because M as a creative andas a dudgeonmesser. I, like that Um level of granularity that I can add toa story. You know what it's what makes it you know not just tomb ofannihilation and a very surface level example right, butit's my tumanitilation campaign and then in that sense I've really loved.Not You know just tooman Niilation, but you know maybe some of the encountersthat have been in there and some of these stories in there that I've sortof added to the module more so than just taking from it mm Jordan. What do youthink? Well, I'm going to play a bit of adevil's advocate here, because I kind of believe it Um. I I like the prewritten modules, a as aDM specifically M. I think that's a little bit because Imight be a bit lazy, but but also just with the pre written modules that I'veseen it has so much detail in there. It's fantastic, I love being able tocake, take all that detail and turn it into. You know...

...a situation for my characters. I likeknowing kind of where the campaign is meant to go kind of thing. I likeknowing the characters and their ideas about Um like the like bicharacters, Imean N B cs, I guess and and what they're kind of hoping toget out of each of these different situations. I find that when I homebrewthings, I leave too much of that detail out,and so I end up improvising a lot and then characters sometimes get a littlebit like. Oh, is this character still this character, or has they have theykind of changed their mind a lot over the last? You know ten seconds Um, so I I like having the the writtenmodule there to Kindo. Tell me what what is going on what people arefeeling there and where I can take the group now, if the, if the players- don't you know, respond tothat, then for sure I'm able to improvise and go from there kind ofthing, and maybe I can find other characters that might speak to them oranother way of getting them to kind of like follow, h the path to a certainextent, but maybe they take their own, their own way to get there like, whichis totally fine, but I like having a little bit of Engol a little bit oflike here's, where people are starting off from and the middle is kind ofblurry. You know Um that that's that's why I do like the the H, the prewrittenstuff Rar, I'm similar, I think dicarlos'sbirspoint whichis that yeah the the prewirtons end upvery hombury. Already I like right now, I'm running both I'm running Thursdaysas a completely home brew campaign off the Dome and I'm rurning Fridays as aI'm working. My way through the Etyrany of dragons dual campaign, orrizaty atMot, RIA and Um- I, like I Nactantali- I like theprewritten modules, because OK, I'm an inherently lazy person and with thepreewritten modules lot of the work's done for you, thestaff locks are written out. It tells you a lot of the time how to play thecreature specifically what they would do in combat Um ell, the guest, a lotof the guess work as kind of taken out of it, but I like not being I like, not being necessarilystrictly too one Endgo, yes, but yeah, but I like not having toadhere too the content. If I don't have to, I feellike if this was a video game. If I was, and I've made the o the draying queenvideo game comparisons multiptimes if it was a video game, I I was playing avideo game. There wouldn't be room for interpretation. Necessarily Igot to do what I have to do. ECAUSE it's in the programming right with withthis. If I don't like something that the moduleis presenting to me, I justdon't. Do It yeah? I don't. If it's like, if it says something like yes,this combat's going to happen, except for this slight chance that the combat might not happen, and myparty has spent the last four hours in combat- I might make it significantly more thana slight chance that combat's not going to happen. I might anter the audiencean able to determine what you're saying look at y split man, yeah I'Mwi'm, saying that like if, if, if it's presenting more of to combatheavy thing and there's potential to turn into a more R P heavy thing, I'mgoing to do that. If there's a room ate a dungeon thatI'm looking at and I'm like, I don't I...

...don't like that fight. I can changethat in hoard of the Dragon Queen, the last creature is notoriously broken fora module you're, essentially fighting a full adult white dragon with a levelseven party. It's not going to happen, so I'm going to change that up. I'm notgoing to let that happen, and I like the freedom to be able to dothat. So I like, following the general structure of a freewritten Y, but I like being able tointerpret that. However, I want so, I guess yeah mostly becoming Ole it yes,yeah, which is how most modules go like. Yes, I don't think I've ever played acampaign where the module stuck to it or or the DM stuck to the moduleexactly you know it. Just it doesn't work. It depends on the number ofpeople in your party. It depends on the number like like how these people areplaying like there's, always room for interpretation and players are alwaysgoing to do something unpredictable right. I think you also t a really goodpoint there, too ban when you said that Um, it's nice to have a lot of the STAPblocks, we're ready there for you D, it's an interesting point to Mak,because that is it really only true if you aren'tcomfortable with a lot of creature, stapblocks righ. So that also relatesto, if you are a bran newdium right like what your level of homebrew mightbe h, completely different tat somebody who's been at it for years and hashomebrewed every single lonser in their encounters R T, because they just havean inate um feeling as to how to balance things and create monsters onthe flying quickly to you know not saying that there are D, ms, that cando that R. If that's an easy thing to do right, I'm definitely not at a levelwhere I could just throw in a creature. You know, and my head just kind ofautomatically knows it's perfectly balanced for this particular encounterright. But I think that, as you get better at that right, creating homebrew becomes a lot easier and just going from idea to story, and not onlythat but M at first right, like we're creating I I remember a lot of ourfirst homber stuff was creating just um one home encounter type things Er. Youknow we're running very direct like your here is poinee. You need to go tothe point B. here's you know the wave he path to it, but you know it's prettycut and dry, whereas Um some later homber, like in yourcampaign's Brin right like me, now you're involving a bigger world aroundit and how things might correlate to one another right like there'sorganizations on top of that Um. So I think just naturally, as youbecome a better DM and play this game more, your homebrew sort of you knowincreases into other areas hat a source book already has you know planned upfor you um, but I wouldn't say that just taking goblins and Whato' creatinga story from it isn't home brew either. You know so Um. I think, like in general, I've enjoyedmy own homebrew a lot more with regards to the setting like the avaloncesetting. I want to get back to that because I think that that's Super Funand I wan to incorporate that into m this sort of royal city setting that Um. We well hope HOPEFULL ONE DA get aroundto workn it'I, but there's a lot of ideas around that right and there's alot of higher level sort of you know how, like Gods and creation and theworld sort of operates right Lik. I think, as homebre sort develops fromyou entering this hobby right, you go from just writing stories to creating agame engine right, you're, creating something that can constantly producestories right and I think it's a subtle little shift because Um,...

...it's al S, it's sort of what's neededwithin each like prewritten module right, prewritten modules are in of itsown, their own little game engines right, like you, have weather, affect othings that are pertinent to that particular location, all written up foryou. So I thing you know: That's just the nature of your humbry Ri Yollyou'll, naturally start swaying away from these periin contest for sure Um.Now we we post this question to the society as we always do. I got only one answer. I got a lot of.I've got a lot of responses, but only one side the people picked. What do youguys think that is, I think, it's home for insomber yeah. It was which is interesting to me, especially because Iwasn't thinking about this, but now we had that whole discussion for duringour echoes of the outland segment, about how much content is out there and how much like we're still seeingnew content ice windales coming out like two months from now, we've gotPharos just came out earlier this year. I think we've got another thing comingin like three months: Um Beeven, though there's so much contentout there and so much that you can do and so much that you can read throughand run for your players. People are still choosing to just ignore all thatand write their own stuff. Why? Why is that? Like? Is it just? Is it just likea creative urge, I think so um go ahead. Sorry acouple of things first of all, AuburnIceland Dal, actually comes out in two days. It comes out September fifteenthget out really absolutely. What am I thinking of Tasha Sculden, I thinkIthashas callen t set for octover Um, but yeah. I think I think it is this drive to create now, becauseyou are forming these communities of people that are going hey. Let's buildhemn, really cool together. Let's build l, add onto you, know, wh we're workingon right, everybody's finlike or not. Finally, but everybody has his outletto collaborate with random people everywhere. So of course, it's going toincentivize and F. of course, that's going to create, I hire drive to createmore and more original contest. I think I think it's just um in general right, like Um, givingpeople tools like the andibion having an encounterbuilder having- and I knowthese aren' things that are just true to the ind beyond but like havingonline tools like encounterbuilders or random table generators are allowing alot of creators to create higher quality content. Like you see with like music Um right, like all, thesetools are just becoming much more accessible for people to create, andit's a naturally creative, medium of entertainment. Right, like you, have aDM and at least that one DM is going to want to write some stories or at leasttake stories in from other M pregenerated content right, but asplayers create in that own world, you have five other players on average,let's say right constantly making stories. So I visit this genre, it'sjust about making stories. So it's not surprising that we see such A. I don't know I like. Maybe theresurgence was hugely populated by critical role, but like it's notsurprising that now that everybody found each other that people re justwant to create more and more and more and more and more, it's a creative outlet that everyonecan kind of get into without like much in terms of like you, don't have to paytoo much. I don't think to get into Dungeons Drigon, it's not an overlyexpensive hobby and it's something that mostly just requires a creative mindright yeah and I mean even if you wanted to add to like Tundon anddragons content right like you, can get as you can. You know, learn about thesources and...

...get your information right like there'snothing preventing you from writing about Isoan Dale Right, there's enoughlore on it. You could use content from the open game license and right forthat or even fine monsters that have been released and right for it rightlike that's why the m's guild is great, because it's allowing all these peopleto just generally use creatures and make their own home brewwith it. Rigt fersure Jordan, saying that it's not expensiveto get into the scabe you of Nazi, my descollection, but I'll save dus collection talk fornext week's next week'St talk of the town, becauseI've already got my beon oed Owt for that. But for now do yoar listeners. What youcan do is tune into our social media, pagees, that's Roral, city society, oninstrogram or ro city, social ontwitter. You can follow the conversation there.We post new talk of the town questions every week check out our content on DM skild checkout durgars music on all streaming services. Now, in the meantime, staywell stay safe and look for new epises episodes of triple advantage. EveryMonday wi'll see ou next week.

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